Monday, February 08, 2010

Letter for Yellowstone

Here is my letter to the park and our congressmen:

February 8, 2010

Dear ----- ,

I am writing concerning a great threat to Yellowstone National Park. This great national treasure is in danger of losing a resource as precious as any geyser, waterfall, or canyon, as valuable to America as the wilderness to which this resource holds an unalienable bond. A precious link between Yellowstone and the young people that will be its future, and that of the nation Yellowstone was established to serve, is about to be broken.

My name is Delose Conner; I am the director of Camp Loll, a Boy Scout Camp two miles south of the Yellowstone boarder. Since 1977, I have directed Loll, on and off, for 23 years. I have been its director for the last ten consecutive years. During this time, Camp Loll has developed a close relationship with Yellowstone Park and the Bechler District; sending thousands of hikers to visit Union Falls and Scout Pool [Ouzel Pool], Terrace Falls, and other wonders in the south west corner of the park. Over the years, the campers at Loll have been trained and inspired by the staff of Yellowstone National Park, and have been instructed in wilderness etiquette by the Camp Loll staff and the BSA. They have learned to love, defend, and protect the wilderness treasures they have the privilege to utilize. The relationship between Yellowstone and Loll has enabled thousands to participate in wilderness experiences that have united their understanding of America’s greatness and goodness to its people with an appreciation of nature’s beauty and a reverence for the environment. In a world where so many dangers beset our youth, Loll and Yellowstone have shown them pleasures and given them opportunities to grow and achieve, thus strengthening them against life’s challenges. No drug-induced high can compare to the thrill of swimming in Scout Pool or contemplating the beauty of Union Falls, no lawless act or thrill at the expense of another can bring the delight of success made possible by completing a twenty mile hike through Yellowstone. No gang loyalty compares to the joy of service and the sense of patriotism engendered by experiencing and learning to protect their American birthright in Yellowstone. Thus, they, Yellowstone, and America are made stronger by experiencing the opportunity made possible by the partnership between Yellowstone National Park and Camp Loll BSA.

Last week I received material relating to a Commercial Use Authorization (CUA) from Yellowstone’s Concessions Management Division. Certain aspects of this proposal will destroy Camp Loll’s ability to utilize Yellowstone. I was not informed of any notice on the Federal Registry in compliance with the Administrative Procedures Act concerning a Notice of Proposed Rule Making. Nor was I, as a Stake Holder, consulted on the formation of this (CUA). To the contrary, in light of our long and successful partnership with the Park, Camp Loll was given assurances that our program would continue unchanged, indeed be strengthened, by the permitting process.

Please help to rescue this valuable partnership. I am eager to develop a plan that will insure that America’s greatest natural resource, its youth, have the opportunity to learn their responsibilities and enjoy their rights in America’s Greatest Natural Treasure, Yellowstone National Park.

Respectfully Yours

Delose Conner,
Director, Camp Loll BSA

Copies to: Utah Senators Orrin Hatch and Bob Bennett and to Utah State Representative Rob Bishop.


Mons Peregrinus said...

My letter

Lysis said...

Mons Pergrinus,

Thank you for your powerful letter. It is exactly what the Park needs to hear. I encourage all who read here at the Agora to go to Mons Pergrinus’ blog and read his wise and powerful council. Wes, I hope you will share this with our congressional delegation as well.

Jim Macdonald said...

Hi all, I keep a "newspaper" on all things related to Yellowstone and Greater Yellowstone.

I've seen both of your letters, and I must admit that as an outsider to this camp and this issue, I'm confused by the details here. Your letters don't exactly address the issues here (and I'd suggest your congresspeople aren't going to understand them either without more details in the letters).

So, if you can help me and my readers (about 50-100 different people every day), I have some questions.

1. What exactly is Camp Loll?

2. What is the history of Camp Loll in Yellowstone? How long, how did it get started, who does it serve, what events highlight your time there?

3. What in a typical year was permitted of Camp Loll that is not being permitted this year?

4. What reason, if any, did the National Park Service give for limiting the permit?

5. How are the limits given detrimental to the functioning of Camp Loll?

6. Besides writing Yellowstone and your congresspersons, what, if anything, do you have planned to address the situation?

7. Is there anything you would like from the public at large to do on your behalf?

8. Are there changes or limits on your previous permit that you are willing to accept?

9. Do you wish to speculate why the Park Service has made these changes?

Okay, I think that is a good start and would help those of us curious about what's happening in Yellowstone to understand a situation that almost all of us had no idea about until these two blog posts appeared yesterday.

Thanks so much. I want to say how I was struck by one of the letters evoking Union Falls; I will never forget my experience standing alone looking at these magnificent falls - they will always remind me of the flowing hair of an angel.

Jim Macdonald

Lysis said...

Dear Jim,

Thank you for your interest. I will do my best to answer your questions.

1. Camp Loll is a Boy Scout Camp which was established in 1959. It is located two miles south of the South Boundary of Yellowstone on the shores of Lake of the Woods.. We have a staff of about sixty seasonal and volunteer employees who provide guidance to scout unites from across the county as their own leaders seek to guide them in developing the “values of Scouting” We average around 250 campers for each of seven weeks in the summer. Because of our unique location we especially emphasis no trace camping and wilderness ethical training, as well as duty to God, country and service to others.

2. The camp was founded by a Boy Scout Council based in Ogden Utah. Our name sake, Mr. Loll, was the manager of the J. C. Penny Store in downtown Ogden. He was a friend of J. C. Penny, and used to take him fishing on Lake of the Woods. When the council was looking for a camp location, Mr. Loll suggested this beautiful spot and eventually paid to have the road brought in. We have cooperated with Yellowstone from the very first – for more than fifty years. Rangers from the Forest Service and the Park have trained our staff and regularly visited with our campers. We follow all back country guidelines and, until this situation, have been able to accommodate taking our campers into the park for a Wednesday hike day in such a way that the Park has applauded our positive impact on the Back Country. We have not always been perfect, but in truth we have learned and have long been ahead of developing backcountry practice.

3. The process in the past is rather complicated. Training begins on Monday, with the arrival of our campers. By Wednesday, they are schooled in back country ethics. They select from several hikes available. Two of the most popular are the hike to Union Falls and Scout Pool and the hike to Terrace Falls. Troops are checked out and are accompanied by a staff guide to insure they are safe and follow the proper wilderness conduct. In the past, the number of groups has not been restricted, it has been the impact that has been managed. They travel separately in the park and are careful to leave no trace. At Terrace Falls, adult staff members monitor behavior to protect the campers and the resource. At Union Falls and Scout Pool two adult staff members make sure that no more than one group of hikers at a time approach the falls or the swimming pool. They also supervise the bear precautions on all equipment and food and keep safety tabs on the operation and prevent scout from becoming lost. There is far more to the process than I will discuss here. But I maintain that Park managers are very please with the limited impact of our hikers. Loll groups actually reduce the impact left by others and improve the condition of the sights we use.

4. No reason was given for these new limitations.

5. The limitations would reduce the number of hikers from 200 to 45, thus robbing 150 + campers of the opportunity to experience the Yellowstone backcountry. Many other activities would continue unabated, but the value of the Park in influencing life long habits and attitudes of our scouts would be greatly reduced. The Park would be the loser.

6. For now we are hopeful that bringing this problem to the attention of the Park will quickly lead to a positive resolution. We have never had a difficulty with the Park that could not be resolved with discussion and education.

Lysis said...

To Jim - Cont.

7. We would be greatly indebted to a public which would help decision makers realize that the youth of America are also a valuable resource, and that when the youth which are our future are teamed with the treasures of Yellowstone, a synergy will occur which will be beneficial for American, the Park, and for the people who are thus served by both.

8. We gladly accept reasonable limits; we do not wish to damage Yellowstone, but we hope that the full picture of the situation will support the justice of allowing Scouts to learn their responsibility to the wilderness by participating in the controlled and positive process that we have long employed. If we had had any complaint form the rangers with which we work we would understand a need for some change – but the Park and the Ranger District have been consistent in their praise of our program and in gratitude for its accomplishments.

9. I cannot speculate on the cause for these changes beyond an obvious lack of understanding of the service rendered, the way in which the Park is defended, and the opportunities provided to all by our partnership.

Thank you very much for your interest. I hope these answers will help. I would be glad to discuss these items at greater length and detail if you wish.

Jim Macdonald said...

Thank you so much for that thorough reply; I'll make sure I point my readers to it all.

I'd be interested in seeing the response from the NPS to this.

One question - I have a vague memory of an incident with a black bear going through some scout backpacks - was it last year? Was this related to Camp Loll? Do you suppose this might be a bear management issue, where someone is concerned that there are too many people in one spot in backcountry at the same time?

On the other hand, there are campgrounds right in prime bear habitat with more than 400 sites (think Grant Village). I still think my hunch is that this may be related to bear issues, but it's just a hunch.

You might want to check out another Web site - I know that park management types read it. Look at National Parks Traveler at ; I'd consider contacting the site founder, Kurt Repanshek; odds are he may post something on it at his site, and it will be noticed. That's not to say I can guarantee that people reading it will be entirely sympathetic, but it would get your issue out there more.

Lysis said...

Camp Loll has had NO problems with bears since 1993. In 1990 and 1993 “bum” bears, dumped on our road, did come into camp. Both were black bears and both were trapped alive and relocated by the Wyoming Game and Fish. Since those days, Camp Loll’s bear precautions have been entirely revamped. We now have large steal bear resistant vaults in every camp site. Garbage is burned to dry ash, removed from every camp site after each meal, and all garbage removed from camp at the end of everyday. Although Camp Loll is in the middle of situation one grizzly bear habitat, with our 250 campers; living day and night in tents in the deep wood, and preparing all their own meals; we have never had a problem with a grizzly bear (touch wood).

We have never had a negative interaction with a bear, touch wood once more, in Yellowstone National Park. We have seen many, almost weekly, but, to my knowledge, there has never been so much as a bread crust left by a Camp Loll scout in the Park.

I am grateful for the information linking me to your News Paper and to Kurt Repanshek’s I encourage all who read in the Agora to take a look at these interesting sources. We would be happy for any who love Yellowstone to become apprised of our situation. We are not concerned with the scrutiny from any just and reasonable person.

Anonymous said...

P.O. Box 168
Yellowstone National Park
Wyoming 82190

Dear Superintendent Lewis:

I am a veteran educator of over thirty years and a scouter of close to fifty years. With this career combination I have been privileged to spend many of my summers at Camp Loll, a camp located just south of Yellowstone Park. As a result of a lawsuit driven by the Sierra Club, the Boy Scouts are now required to obtain Commercial Use Authorization permits. In crafting our permit, the Concessions Division of Yellowstone has included stipulations that will essentially exclude the scouts of Camp Loll from using the Bechler Corner of the Yellowstone back country.

For over a decade now, Camp Loll has worked very closely with the park and a very amicable Bechler Head Ranger to ensure that scouts who visit the park are properly trained in back country use and are properly supervised. Similarly, Camp Loll has adhered to park standards and regulations and has helped in revegetation, trail maintenance, and any other measure that would prevent or diminish our possible impact on the park.

The future of Yellowstone, of the Park Service, of America, is our youth. Any measure that reduces their park experience, prohibits hands-on learning, not to mention excluding them from wilderness experience is short-sighted and wrong.

As the wise guardian of The Park that you are, I ask that you modify points seven and eight on our permit, to allow Yellowstone National Park and Camp Loll to continue its training of America's youth in both the love of Yellowstone and in the proper use of this national treasure.


Leonard M. Hawkes

Finch said...

February 10, 2010

Dear Superintendent Lewis:

I am writing in regards to the Yellowstone National Park special use permit associated with Camp Loll. I have spent 16 of the last 30 summers at Camp Loll, from the time I was six months old until one year ago. As a child I played in the waters of Cascade Creek and as a ten-year-old I suffered the long dusty trail to Union Falls where I experienced one of the greatest challenges and rewards of my youth. There is a real danger that many young people may be denied the opportunity to hike to Union and Terrace Falls because of the restrictions in the current special use permit. These restrictions endanger one of the few remaining opportunities young people have to experience real wilderness. In an age when nature deficit disorder has become a commonly recognized harm to the youth, shouldn’t we do everything we can to protect these rare and essential opportunities.

The hike day program, by which Camp Loll staff members guide campers through the back country, should serve as a model example of collaborative and adaptive management on the part of Yellowstone National Park and the Boy Scouts of America. Between 2003 and 2008 I worked side by side with back country rangers from Bechler Station to develop a self-enforced management and education system whereby we, the Camp Loll staff and campers under the direction of YNP, implement and enforce our own use restrictions. We welcomed the opportunity to be better owners of this national treasure. Every day I praise Dave Ross and his staff for their great example to me. They truly understand the values of the resources entrusted to their management.

Finch said...

There are many specific benefits that come from the Camp Loll hike day program which is threatened by the restrictions in the special use permit. These benefits include:

• The opportunity for young people and their adult leaders to have natural experiences
• The specific structure of groups and guides that facilitates the transfer of important knowledge regarding the care and use of the resource
• The opportunity for young people to feel ownership and obligation for the care of the resource
• The ability to implement adaptive management, whereby hike-day users assist YNP in monitoring specific impacts to the resource and the causes of these impacts and Camp Loll and YNP work collaboratively to make changes to the program
• As part of the collaborative relationship, Camp Loll staff and campers have opportunities to volunteer in restoration and revegetation work. I participated in these projects along with many of the Camp Loll staff and campers at Buela Lake in 2003 and at Union and Terrace Falls in 2004.
• YNP resource management officers have a marvelous opportunity to practice collaborative management by engaging a specific group of resource users. Dave and his staff are exemplary resource managers. In 2004 and 2005 Dave assigned Todd Selaga to work with Camp Loll. Todd visited the camp often to discuss aspects of hike-day, he and I hiked together with a group of scouts to Union Falls, and he and I wrote the hike-day-use protocols, which include pre-trip education in the principles of Leave No Trace outdoor ethics and specific guidelines for the visitation and use of each hike destination. Todd and I climbed Teewinot together in 2005 before he went on to work at Grand Canyon National Park, and I know that he greatly valued the management experience he gained as an employee of YNP through the opportunity he had to collaborate with a group of users in order to make a working, self-enforced resource use plan.

Finch said...

Let me reiterate that I am not opposed to special use permits, and I am an ardent supporter of YNP. I am concerned that the restrictions in the special use permit will deny many of the visitors to Camp Loll the opportunity to experience the park in the best way possible: with a knowledgeable guide who has been taught about the specific resource and who is teaching and demonstrating the principles of Leave No Trace. In order for the camp to operate all of its programs during the week, a single day is set aside on which all the scouts and staff can leave camp to hike. If it were otherwise then competing needs would prevent many of the scouts from experiencing the hike with an accompanying staff member. The staff would have to stay in camp to run their program areas. The staff guide is an essential part to the success of the hike-day program because the guide knows the area and can keep the visitors safe and can teach the visitors how to protect the resource.

The youth who visit Camp Loll need to hike in Yellowstone. We, as a nation, need generations of leaders who have experienced wilderness and who have instilled in them a feeling of ownership and obligation.

Please do whatever is in your power to influence the restrictions in the special use permit in order to allow Camp Loll to continue to have the hike-day program for all of its campers. This program benefits the visitors, YNP employees who work with the camp, and it results in wiser and better prepared citizens and leaders.

Every day I draw upon the real-life experiences I gained as a child in the woods. The Yellowstone backcountry enriches lives and creates better people. I know from my own experience – it is the home I hold in my heart; and I have seen it as I have guided hundreds of young people, over many years, to Union and Terrace Falls. I hope you will see that the youth who visit Camp Loll in the coming summer and in summers to come need access to these great cultural resources.

Thank you. Sincerely,

Lafe Conner
Camp Loll staff 1980-81, 1986-1992, 2002; and Nature Director 2003-2008
PhD Candidate, Ecosystem and Physiological Ecology
Department of Biology
Brigham Young University
Provo, Utah 84602

Copies sent to Judy Jennings, Senator Bennett, Senator Hatch, and Representative Chaffertz.

Finch said...


I am going to the post office this morning to mail my letters. Thanks.

Lysis said...

Leonard and Lafe,

Thank you for your wonderful letters. I am in the process of writing a detailed play-by-play of the hike process, from the origins or the BSA to the training and checkout proeess to the actual activities and procedures on the hikes. Your comments and information will be invaluable.

I have actually be put in contact with Representative Chaffetz office and am hopeful he will become a supporter in this. Please take the time to e-mail him your comments directly, even if you have sent him a letter. Such documentation will be even more effective is presented in tandem.

Thank you both so much.

Tyler said...


I have posted the letter I sent here.

Anonymous said...

Am I to understand that you traipse 200 people at one time into this defacto wilderness area?
Don't get me wrong, it is obvious that you are doing excellent and very important work, but this number of people in one group could do all sorts of unintended environmental damage; not the least of which would be totally destroying the experience of other hikers trying to "get away from it all". The hike into Union Falls is popular enough without allowing groups of this size. Even a group of 45 seems excessive to me. If this area were official wilderness, and many people would like to see more official wilderness areas inside National Parks to insure that they remain wild and free from development for future generations, groups of your size could mean that others would be denied access altogether.
Isn't it possible to find enjoyable hikes in the surrounding National Forest, or to break your group into smaller ones with different destinations? Seems to me that there are dozens of delightful hikes in the area.
Please don't take this letter as a negative. I support the work you are doing, but I know that I would not want to go on what might be the highlight of my vacation, a backpack into Union Falls, only to run into 200 scouts, no matter how well behaved; I really wouldn't.

Lysis said...


Thank you for posting and presenting this important viewpoint.

First, let me point out that the 200 hikers are spread between two very different destinations, Union Falls/Scout Pool and Terrace Falls. Also, the hiking groups are small in themselves – the aggregate does sound like a large number – but it is spread out over miles and miles of trail and it is not as shocking as it may sound. Please ask those who have been there. It is often unwise to make judgments base solely on conjecture.

Second, let’s follow your reasoning. Because seeing people in the backcountry would ruin your wilderness experience – why, I would like you to explain – you would support ruining the wilderness experience of 200 other people by not allowing them to have it at all by denying them the right to hike.

Third, you point out that there are many wonderful places to visit in the forest. I agree – why then should not you, or anyone else, who doesn’t want to meet a Boy Scout in the woods, go to those places?

The hikers from Camp Loll spend a few seconds at most, passing other hikers on the trail. More often than not, interactions with scouts are actually enjoyed by those who meet them. Friendship and a shared love of the Wilderness are surely also good things to find in the backcountry as anything else. People can be as beautiful as waterfalls, or bears.

Realize also that even if restrictions are placed on Loll’s hiking, there is no way of preventing other groups, in any number, from utilizing the park on their own. I submit that Yellowstone and the wilderness are better served by having trained, well guided, and well behaved hikers.

Lysis said...


Thank you for your beautiful letter and for posting it where all can read it. I hope those, like our anonymous friend above will read and consider it as they seek to understand our point of view.

Jim Macdonald said...

Just to let you know, another Yellowstone blog - not mine - "Yellowstone Insider" has written an article on your situation today.

It's mostly sympathetic, though offers its own theory about what is happening here.

See Do New Yellowstone Policies Negatively Impact Boy Scouts? Advocates Say Yes.

Lysis said...


Thank you for the article in the Yellowstone insider. I recommend all who read here in the Agora link to and read it. I feel your have been fair in presenting the points and would be glad to answer any questions you have to further clarify the “facts”.

Jim Macdonald said...

Was not my article ... just want to make that clear ... it's on another Web site.

Lysis said...


I see that now. Thank you for the clarification.

Anonymous said...

"why then should not you, or anyone else, who doesn’t want to meet a Boy Scout in the woods, go to those places?"....
I never implied or stated that I would not want to meet "a Boy Scout in the woods", hundreds is another story, especially on a regular basis. Believe me, if I knew that there were going to be hundreds of individuals of any group on a trail, I would definately find another place to hike. Many people would. That is why in designated Wilderness Areas group sizes are strictly limited, often to as little as 15-20. Daily limits are also enforced. This maintains the wilderness character and experience for everyone, including the groups. I certainly do not mind meeting people on the trail, but most people hiking a wilderness trail are doing so to get away from CROWDS. It may only take a few minutes (seconds, really?!) for your group to pass; but how long, I wonder, before they are no longer heard? No one, I would argue, in a huge group (or around a huge group)is having a "wilderness experience" at all!
My guess is that there aren't very many "other groups" of 200 hiking in the Park; and if it does happen it is very, very rare and not week after week every summer.
BTW, I live in the area and have visited Union Falls several times.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the work you are doing. Important stuff. Please don't hate me. I am merely presenting a different point of view; one that the Park Service may very well be taking into consideration when making their decisions.

Lysis said...


I do not hate you. I am grateful to you for making open discussion about these concerns possible. They need to be aired. I, and all who support my position, need to consider every point of view.

I tend to be feisty in discussion – all those years as debate coach I suppose – but I respect not only your position, but you.

One of the impacts we do seek to manage is noise. That being said, I promise you that the boys hiking to Union Falls are having a wilderness experience, one that will change their lives forever and forever for the better.

There are wilderness areas in America – places were only a few at a time pass – Yellowstone need not be such a place in order to work its magic. I believe with all my heart that the young people and their leaders, who travel into Yellowstone, in the way I have attempted to describe, are having a wilderness experience. The experience for which our people, in their wisdom, chose to set aside National Parks.

Realize that these hikers are in small groups, they are spaced along the trail not in a mob together. Even the boys and leaders themselves are mostly unaware that other groups are on the trails before or behind them. As the day passes they see few people. However, the people they see, from Loll or not, do not spoil their adventure, often they improve it. Perchance a change of heart is what is needed.

It is sad indeed that one person’s pleasure must come at the expense of another’s, but perhaps it must be so. Should we not then look to the other values of such an opportunity? Other things besides pleasure. Measure what is best for Yellowstone and our country in a final tally and then make the hard choices that must follow. I am confident that reasoned discussion along these lines, accepting that nothing is perfect, will justify Wednesday Hike Day at Camp Loll.

Scott Parson said...

I notice that few (if any) letters have been sent to Representative Matheson.

He should be included in this issue as it affect many Utah users of Camp Loll.

He is also a Democrat and may have influence with the party currently running things.

I will be speaking with Representative Bishop and Senator Hatch about this issue within the next few days.

Thanks to all who have preserved and enhanced Camp Loll all these years. Some of my fondest memories are of the summer of 1986 when I worked at Camp Loll.

Scott Parson

Lysis said...


It is great to hear from you. I appreciate your willingness to speak with our representatives. I am eager to provide any information or clarification I can to you or to them. I will also send information to Congressman Matheson at once. I am hopeful that those in his district who are writing have already contacted him, but you are right – I owe him direct contact.

As Always - DC

Dana Prescott said...

Dear Superintendent Lewis;

I can see all your major points have been met and Addressed. I add yet another echo to the strain of voices presented on Camp Lolls behalf.

My experiences At Loll changed me. As the son of a paraplegic my drive through appreciation of the park was not enough to give me a leave no trace comprehensive view to protecting and preserving this natural wonder. I learned how to protect and preserve this wonderful wilderness at the training of National parks representatives and My scouting leaders of Camp Loll. Yellowstone literally became more than a simple "Park" to me. I became impassioned to sharing this with my very closest friends. As I share this I relay a need to preserve it. My children and I trek there each year from our home in Oklahoma. Now they get the same lectures for preservation and leave no trace that I once received from my scouting leaders.

As was said by My good Friend Leonard Hawkes and as I say to you as well...As the wise guardian of The Park that you are, I ask that you modify points seven and eight on our permit, to allow Yellowstone National Park and Camp Loll to continue its training of America's youth in both the love of Yellowstone and in the proper use of this national treasure.

Sincerely J Keith Prescott

Dana Prescott said...

Dear Superintendent Lewis;

I can see all your major points have been met and Addressed. I add yet another echo to the strain of voices presented on Camp Lolls behalf.

My experiences At Loll changed me. As the son of a paraplegic my drive through appreciation of the park was not enough to give me a leave no trace comprehensive view to protecting and preserving this natural wonder. I learned how to protect and preserve this wonderful wilderness at the training of National parks representatives and My scouting leaders of Camp Loll. Yellowstone literally became more than a simple "Park" to me. I became impassioned to sharing this with my very closest friends. As I share this I relay a need to preserve it. My children and I trek there each year from our home in Oklahoma. Now they get the same lectures for preservation and leave no trace that I once received from my scouting leaders.

As was said by My good Friend Leonard Hawkes and as I say to you as well...As the wise guardian of The Park that you are, I ask that you modify points seven and eight on our permit, to allow Yellowstone National Park and Camp Loll to continue its training of America's youth in both the love of Yellowstone and in the proper use of this national treasure.

Sincerely J Keith Prescott

Lysis said...


Thank you for your letter. It is wonderful to see those who have benefited bear witness to the effectiveness of these hikes in their lives. It is laudable that those who understand that benefit are determined to provide it to others. This it the nature of truth, the greatest joy comes in sharing it. As I told Todd above: I am confident that as those who do not comprehend the enormity of the benefit, or the truly small cost of this program, will reach a meaningful understand by reading such testimony.

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