tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post1033906641454519951..comments2024-01-20T05:01:49.819-07:00Comments on Agora: The N.E.P.Lysishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10669231502705943487noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-8426388650405760562010-04-28T15:01:11.295-06:002010-04-28T15:01:11.295-06:00Oh Captain, my Captain,
You are not being honest ...Oh Captain, my Captain,<br /><br />You are not being honest when you claim that the NEP calls for malnutrition. (No more than I would be if I claimed you advocate gorging – so it seems odd to me that we should be arguing at these extremes.) As for producing “competent nutritional experts”, I have the evidence of my own health – and the arguments of the scientists and philosophers I cited in my original post – which I suggest your read again before you further misrepresent.<br /><br />As for observations of the NEP: since I am the only person I know to be following it in its unaltered state, I can state important facts. My cholesterol, which was high despite the drugs I was taking, is now normal with less medication. I sleep better, have more energy to work and play, walk farther without fatigue, and actually get pleasure in exercise. I have not had a headache in months, although I once suffered from them regularly, and I am capable of physical exertion I would not have dreamed of attempting before I shed 75 lbs. of unnecessary me.<br /><br />As for a “productive life style”, please consider: I teach with energy and pleasure every day; preparing for four different classes and tending to the needs of close to 200 students, while fulfilling a variety of school related responsibilities. I advise three clubs, providing lessons and training for Senior Class Advisory, and coordinating the graduation ceremony for close to five hundred students. I direct a scout camp with its attendant responsibilities, including working with the Park Service, the Forest Service, and the Council leadership. I speak publicly to various groups and coordinating my Camp Staff’s performance for others. I pursue a variety of interests and hobbies, including: writing, reading, and work on art projects. I keep abreast of nightly news and do some small services around the house. Since Christmas, I have been involved in two stressful and rewarding campaigns for causes I believe in – Mr. Smith’s retirement and Camp Loll camper’s hiking privileges in Yellowstone. I have recently taken a position as Community School Director at Layton High, and look forward to the experience, growth, and opportunity to serve this will bring. I am very active in politics, meeting with candidates, reading materials, attending debates, and representing my precinct as a State Delegate in the upcoming State Convention. My “lifestyle” allows me to provide for many of the needs of my family, a wife and two children still at home, the extra boy, and give support, financially and personally, to my children who have left my home but not my care, and I dote on my grandsons. I have many friends, and enjoy talking with them and being of any service to them which I can. I am up and active 17 hours a day, and sleep peacefully for 7 every night. As I said above, I don’t get sick. (Touch wood.) You must take my word when I testify that I feel better than I have in years. <br /><br />I do not claim to be the most fit or powerful person around, I simply maintain that I have found a way to make myself feel better than I did before and hope I will continue to be able to maintain my resolve not to fall back into the less healthy condition in to which I had fallen. As the NEP worked for me, I recommend it to any who find themselves in similar circumstances.Lysishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10669231502705943487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-6479179310495829462010-04-28T11:21:44.522-06:002010-04-28T11:21:44.522-06:00It doesn't matter which problem obesity or mal...It doesn't matter which problem obesity or malnutrition is more pervasive they're both bad. If I'm struck with lung cancer it does no good for me to point out that bone cancer is a much bigger problem in our country. <br /><br />Good healthy energy doesn't come from eating grease or sugar or carbonated artificially sweetened soft drinks. The best way to raise your energy level and metabolism is through activity. <br /><br />We have to avoid extremes, arguing that your extreme is better than some other extreme is pointless. Choose the middle road. <br /><br />You are right to advocate health and healthy body weight, so there is no need to imply that I advocate gorging I do not. The NEP as I have observed it does not create a healthy weight or a productive lifestyle. I challenge you to find one competent medical or nutritional expert who would support your current weight, diet, and exercise program.Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13365011424910566512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-67535002031310668822010-04-28T06:14:22.174-06:002010-04-28T06:14:22.174-06:00In response to your comments on “skinniness” I ref...In response to your comments on “skinniness” I refer you to the original post; particularly the claims of Xenophon regarding the Spartans and the quote from Dr. Marc Hellerstein, quoted in News Week. I would also protest that the NEP does advocate moderate exercise. <br /><br />I would suggest that obesity, not skinniness, is the more pressing health concern. Moderation in eating and exercise will produce “skinniness” obsession with eating results in obesity. Obesity is a health problem of gigantic proportion in this country. We live in a culture which insists on having it all, a binge and bust mentality which seeks to indulge and then purge it belly and its conscience. <br /><br />I do not disparage exercise – I merely point to the bloated “former” athletes who lost their self-control gorging their elevated appetites, while their life style covered their excess, and who now cannot muster the discipline to save their lives.<br /><br />I admit to the Mt. Dew – although 7 would be an exceptionally high number for any given day. If it raises my energy level without requiring constant snacking on grease and sugar, I am grateful to have the option.Lysishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10669231502705943487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-47589157491176788782010-04-28T00:33:41.822-06:002010-04-28T00:33:41.822-06:00Point one should say skinniness is not healthiness...Point one should say skinniness is not healthiness; <br />Also in addition to point two; Bone strength, joint health, even brain function are all dependent on exercise and an adequate diet. A skinny person, with a limited diet, could still suffer serious health problems in all these areas.Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13365011424910566512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-91872114998924860442010-04-27T19:51:59.470-06:002010-04-27T19:51:59.470-06:00Three points:
1. Shininess is not healthiness. We...Three points: <br />1. Shininess is not healthiness. Weight loss often accompanies healthy living but it also accompanies malnutrition and weakness. Skinniness can easily become unhealthy.<br /><br />2. Diet control is not a sufficient substitute for exercise. Loosing weight does not improve lung or heart function in the same way exercise does. You claim your eating habits have raised your energy level but your energy could have something to do with the seven or so mountain dews you drink throughout the day. <br /><br />3. Obsession is not Self Control. When you reach the point where any system or idea keeps you from acting in a rational manner then the obsession is in control not you.Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13365011424910566512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-65091621034400513722010-04-27T19:27:25.950-06:002010-04-27T19:27:25.950-06:00When our young captain has navigated as many seas ...When our young captain has navigated as many seas as I have, he might come to alter course on the subject of diet. His “just eat healthy” will come to be any way of eating that keeps his belly in trim. When he is my age, and a doing a lot of exercise becomes more torture than a little self control, I’ll check him out, and if need be, re-recommend the NEP.Lysishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10669231502705943487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-17113424734224757072010-04-27T10:30:36.259-06:002010-04-27T10:30:36.259-06:00A friend of mine once had a saying that went "...A friend of mine once had a saying that went "Vivir con el N.E.P es vivir a medias. Meaning to live on the N.E.P. is like to half live or is a life half lived. Lysis writes well and sound reasonable but I have witnessed the N.E.P. up close if you're looking to loose weight and be healthy I would suggest the J.E.H.A.G.A.O.E.B.D.T.Y.F.S.S.O.M.P.A.O.S.O.C.L.A.C.P.M.I.A.T. The just eat healthy and get a lot of exercise but don't torture yourself for some masochistic pleasure and obsessive sense of control, like a crazy person, moderation in all things. This plan seems to work better with fewer side effects.Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13365011424910566512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-37759019102025631392010-04-16T21:48:31.159-06:002010-04-16T21:48:31.159-06:00Jewel,
Thanks for the note – I’m very eager to ha...Jewel,<br /><br />Thanks for the note – I’m very eager to have you stop in. Lafe is in Provo at the BYU. I am sure he would love to hear from you.<br /><br />Tatton,<br /><br />It is so nice to hear from you. Come see us – keep in touch!!Lysishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10669231502705943487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-69464240363520218572010-04-16T04:42:51.319-06:002010-04-16T04:42:51.319-06:00Lysis. I loved this blog it reminded Me of brasil...Lysis. I loved this blog it reminded Me of brasil and the time I spent starving there. Talk to you more love tattonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-91045769355528845612010-04-15T00:33:06.039-06:002010-04-15T00:33:06.039-06:00Wow, I guess I should stop by and see you next tim...Wow, I guess I should stop by and see you next time I'm in town. 75 pounds? Congratulations! I need to lose about 15 myself - my metabolism finally caught up to me now that I'm nearing 30. C'est la vie. I'll give "The N.E.P." a try. Tell L. I said hello.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08141310375273251102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-35071742297108657582010-04-11T16:46:07.648-06:002010-04-11T16:46:07.648-06:00Todd,
It is very nice to hear from you. I laud y...Todd,<br /><br />It is very nice to hear from you. I laud your participation in these demanding athletic activates, most inspirational. I am sure you will continue to benefit from the application of your physical abilities. Thanks for the great quote. It is one I will share with my students. I had not heard of Mr. Rohn, but I looked him up on the computer. Thanks for that tip as well.Lysishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10669231502705943487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-76476076013582522812010-04-10T23:16:51.970-06:002010-04-10T23:16:51.970-06:00After completing two triathlons and a marathon las...After completing two triathlons and a marathon last year, I still hadn't been able to shed the last 15 pounds by exercise only. Your story has helped me fill in the blanks. "We must all suffer from one of two pains - the pain of discipline or the pain of regret ." The late Jim RohnToddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422688354006852059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-3441994742074732502010-04-07T21:02:02.256-06:002010-04-07T21:02:02.256-06:00Reach,
Your advice is wise, appreciated, and att...Reach, <br /><br />Your advice is wise, appreciated, and attested to by years of success. Thank you for your thoughts.Lysishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10669231502705943487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-84042390860813407002010-04-07T19:07:26.984-06:002010-04-07T19:07:26.984-06:00I admire your determination. The "moderate&q...I admire your determination. The "moderate" workout you outline would be extremely challenging (if not immediately impossible) for the vast majority of American adults. Bully for you!<br /><br />As you know, I have battled the bulge since I was a kid. It is not an easy thing. In my years, I have learned a few things about what works and what doesn't. Your program includes many of the elements that work. Setting goals, measuring regularly, and having a plan are among those.<br /><br />Perhaps the greatest factor is having some source of inspiration that drives you to do what must be done, difficult though it be. You have taken your grandsons. I have my health condition, and I still have young kids at home.<br /><br />For a change to be more permanent, you must come to see yourself differently in the deepest recesses of your mind. Most people that lose weight never achieve this. They get skinnier, but deep in their subconscious they are still fat. So it is not surprising that they eventually get fat again.<br /><br />Studies have found that it often takes some kind of serious shock imposed on us from an external source to cause this to happen. For me it was when I was diagnosed with MS. For you it was the doctor visit and the scale experience. Apparently most humans fail to achieve a permanent change just by their own willpower.<br /><br />I have found that over time I must employ variety. No matter what plan I have found to be successful, it starts to become somewhat less successful after a few years, even when I remain diligent. I then do more research and find something else that seems like it will work. The change starts the commitment pattern over again. I think that in these situations, the change is perhaps even more important for me than the substance of the plan.Scott Hinrichshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11831447472339880148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-2789149623025917702010-04-04T13:47:40.925-06:002010-04-04T13:47:40.925-06:00Taylor,
I hear you’re a published poet – and at...Taylor, <br /><br />I hear you’re a published poet – and at Harvard no less. There’s quality for you!Lysishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10669231502705943487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382259.post-81423492517546488622010-04-04T12:31:41.076-06:002010-04-04T12:31:41.076-06:00this is wonderful! I was certainly one who believe...this is wonderful! I was certainly one who believed you were dying of cancer. Jodi and myself are at or near our target weight, but I really like the idea of more energy and the self mastery and control that this provides.Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02049849966535550289noreply@blogger.com